Re: [-empyre-] a bit on delay
dear adam, alan, -empyreans-,
alan wrote:
I'd be interested in what you come up with. I'm fascinated by the
idea of
community and 'presencing' at a distance - what would a drinking party
look like over this distance? I know this sounds a bit insipid, but
with
real-time and real-size imaging, it would be worth studying and
documenting from a psychologial viewpoint. Another project would
utilize
lag, as if the two sites were literally planets apart -
It would also be interesting to establish, under the lag conditions,
the
development of a narrative, development of dance, etc. I'm hoping to
work
on some of this at West Virginia later this summer.
adam wrote:
Probably Alan you know of Jesses work already
(http://www.turbulence.org/Works/interaxis/bios/jg.html) , he has done
a
lot of experimentation with live performance utilising delay caused by
streaming. The MOCA staged one of his perfomances FLOOD in 2000 I think
which involved looped + overlayed video and audio streams...it was a
very
interesting experiment + had some very bueatiful visual components.
I also read recently that the most recent Mars toy (Spirit) is radio
controlled. However I think the delay in sending the commands is 20
minutes...which I guess would make interesting musings for possible
future remote performances
There have been other uses of streaming delay too in performance but
generally it seems performers like their media synchronised and use
more
sophisticated video conferencing equipment---Kelli Dipple
(http://www.gravelrash.net/) has done a lot of performative
experimentation with both streaming solutions (and delay etc) and
synchronised a/v media using the Access Grid network
(http://www.accessgrid.org/)....and of course there is always the
Marcel network (http://www.mmmarcel.org/english/contents.html)...
anyway
must run (without further delay)...
hey, thanks to both of you, these thoughts, projects and links are
great, very
recommendable to have a look at!
i have two more examples of streaming media performances in mind
that range back to 2001. pingfm were involved there, too, probably they
have another say on this.
unfortunaltely I cannot find existing links/online documentation of
these
works, anyway i'll do my best in describing them.
in 2001, during an event called "fusion2001" there were two streaming
performances experimenting with community/presence in conjunction with
distance and lag. the first one was kirsten johannsen's
ICCDP [International Cross-Continental Dinner Party] which featured
three
participating locations, sydney, weimar (germany) and los angeles.
video(+audio) streams of the two other locations were projected on
screens
at the end of a dinner table where also the cameras for this one were
located,
hence an "infinite" table was created (like with two mirrors facing
each other).
funny to note that -empyre- founder then to become melinda rackham was
at
the australian table while we joined kirsten johannsen and jill scott
in germany.
due to the still rather primitive video-conferencing software
(I think they used iVisit) there were a couple of technical concerns.
Anyway the atmosphere created was very interesting as a dinner party is
naturally
part to what goes together with a certain time of the day. spanning
three
timezones some people felt like breakfast while others had their lunch
break.
the other project was called "flamenco con fusion" and was a piece by
tim quinn,
one of victoria vesna's people at ucla. now this was all about lag
causes by slow
realmedia streaming. the stream featured a stage with dancers
who again had a projection of themselves in the background. this
projection was
in fact a 40sec delayed realplayer loop that was send to weimar,
reencoded there and
sent back. as this loop (similar to the ICCDP's one) reappeared in the
background
projection it created something like a visual canon (although the sound
was always
only the present live one, i think).
felix
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